I can’t stop laughing, the cowards in here are really starting to come out of the woodwork!
A WordPress blogger by the name of Michael Wilson (Links follow) couldn’t handle being shown the word of God in his false doctrine, so he abruptly deleted my comment and tried to hide the evidence! Except he didn’t do a good job of erasing me from the universe like Thanos snapping his fingers, because the dolt can be seen talking to a non existent person!!
What Michael erased was this comment by me here:
Μιχαήλ (Michael) Wilson
“I’m not sure where these questions are leading”
I could be wrong, but me thinks you know EXACTLY where “I’m leading” with my questions. I am trying to get you to commit to the simple question I asked which is do you believe in the eternal security of the believer. It is a fundamental belief held by hundreds of thousands of believers, that once a man believes upon the Lord Jesus Christ and trusts in HIM, that man is saved and redeemed and adopted into God’s family as a permanent gift that cannot be revoked, even if that man sins afterwards and is disobedient. He can’t lose his salvation because the focus is on God’s free gift, NOT his obedience.
Those who teach that disobedience to Christ can result in losing one’s salvation are inadvertently believing in a work’s based Gospel, so I’m trying to nail you down to see where you stand on this issue.
“Jesus calls us to follow Him and be disciples (learners)”
Yes HE does, and so we should, but obedience is the process of sanctification, NOT salvation….Disobedience results in the loss of rewards at the Judgment seat of Christ, NOT the loss of salvation, which is what you seem to be suggesting.
“That is a lifetime commitment not a one time event”
Wrong! you’re intermingling 2 separate issues here, salvation is always described as a past event once one believes upon Jesus, it is never used as a present, continuous “process”. You’re either saved or you’re not, you’re either a child of God, or you’re a child of the Devil. The lifetime commitment you refer to has to do with one’s sanctification NOT salvation
“Jesus is all about obedience”
Yes and no…….Salvation is a free gift that cannot be earned, it is the gift of God lest any man shall boast, and a man’s disobedience does NOT result in the forfeiture of that free gift
We are obedient to Jesus NOT to get saved, or to make sure we don’t lose our salvation, we obey Christ because we love HIM
I could have used multiple scripture references to back up my claims but I have a feeling that you already know the ones I could have used, and I suspect I know EXACTLY the ones that YOU will use to refute my position!
I could be wrong, but on this issue we seem to share opposite views?
As you can see I was polite and respectful, but these hereticks cannot stand to have their false doctrine being corrected. Words of Michael are in blue